Википедия:Медээлер
tyv:Экии, вики-өңнүк! ru: Привет, вики-друг! en: Hello wiki-friend! |
Тыва Википедия бөгүн 500-кү чүүлүн ашкан!
эдерБүгү википедийжилерге байыр чедирип тур мен! Ам-даа сорук киирип чаа авторлар чалап сайзыраалыңар че! --Agilight (обсуждение) 15:08, 1 Беш айның 2014 (KRAT)
Тыва Википедия бөгүн 600-кү чүүлүн ашкан!
эдерҮш ай четпээнде +100 чүүл немешкен. --Agilight (обсуждение) 23:24, 28 Чеди айның 2014 (KRAT)
VisualEditor News #4—2015
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Did you know?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team have been working on mobile phone support. They have fixed many bugs and improved language support. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving language support and functionality on mobile devices.
Wikimania
эдерThe team attended Wikimania 2015 in Mexico City. There they participated in the Hackathon and met with individuals and groups of users. They also made several presentations about VisualEditor and the future of editing.
Following Wikimania, we announced winners for the VisualEditor 2015 Translathon. Our thanks and congratulations to users Halan-tul, Renessaince, जनक राज भट्ट (Janak Bhatta), Vahe Gharakhanyan, Warrakkk, and Eduardogobi.
For interface messages (translated at translatewiki.net), we saw the initiative affecting 42 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 56.5% before the translathon, and 78.2% after (+21.7%). In particular, Sakha improved from 12.2% to 94.2%; Brazilian Portuguese went from 50.6% to 100%; Taraškievica went from 44.9% to 85.3%; Doteli went from 1.3% to 41.2%. Also, while 1.7% of the messages were outdated across all languages before the translathon, the percentage dropped to 0.8% afterwards (-0.9%).
For documentation messages (on mediawiki.org), we saw the initiative affecting 24 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 26.6% before translathon, and 46.9% after (+20.3%). There were particularly notable achievements for three languages. Armenian improved from 1% to 99%; Swedish, from 21% to 99%, and Brazilian Portuguese, from 34% to 83%. Outdated translations across all languages were reduced from 8.4% before translathon to 4.8% afterwards (-3.6%).
We published some graphs showing the effect of the event on the Translathon page. We thank the translators for participating and the translatewiki.net staff for facilitating this initiative.
Recent improvements
эдерAuto-fill features for citations can be enabled on each Wikipedia. The tool uses the citoid service to convert a URL or DOI into a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. You can see an animated GIF of the quick, simple process at mediawiki.org. So far, about a dozen Wikipedias have enabled the auto-citation tool. To enable it for your wiki, follow the instructions at mediawiki.org.
Your wiki can customize the first section of the special character inserter in VisualEditor. Please follow the instructions at mediawiki.org to put the characters you want at the top. In other changes, if you need to fill in a CAPTCHA and get it wrong, then you can click to get a new one to complete. VisualEditor can now display and edit Vega-based graphs. If you use the Monobook skin, VisualEditor's appearance is now more consistent with other software.
Future changes
эдерThe team will be changing the appearance of selected links inside VisualEditor. The purpose is to make it easy to see whether your cursor is inside or outside the link. When you select a link, the link label (the words shown on the page) will be enclosed in a faint box. If you place your cursor inside the box, then your changes to the link label will be part of the link. If you place your cursor outside the box, then it will not. This will make it easy to know when new characters will be added to the link and when they will not.
On the English Wikipedia, 10% of newly created accounts are now offered both the visual and the wikitext editors. A recent controlled trial showed no significant difference in survival or productivity for new users in the short term. New users with access to VisualEditor were very slightly less likely to produce results that needed reverting. You can learn more about this by watching a video of the July 2015 Wikimedia Research Showcase. The proportion of new accounts with access to both editing environments will be gradually increased over time. Eventually all new users have the choice between the two editing environments.
Let's work together
эдер- Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. This feedback page is now using Flow instead of LiquidThreads.
- Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at mediawiki.org if you can help.
- If your wiki would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace, you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.
- Please file requests for language-appropriate "Полужирный" and "Курсив" icons for the styling menu in Phabricator.
- The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
- The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, usually on Tuesdays at 12:00 (noon) PDT (19:00 UTC). Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q1 blocker, though. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the main VisualEditor project with the bug.
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
—Elitre (WMF), 05:28, 15 Сес айның 2015 (KRAT)
Орхон-Енисей бижик
эдерТөөгү кезээнде Орхон-Енисей бижиктиг арыннар бар. Эрги Енисей сөстерни улам киирер мен. Ынчангаш, аргалыг болза Орхон биле Енисей үжүктерлиг шрифтилерни компьютериңерге киирип алыр болзуңарза эки.
Орхон биле Енисей үжүктер чүгле Unicode стандартызында бар. "Unicode" -та ооң ады "Old Turkic". Орхон-Енисей үжүктер орнунга билдинмес дөрбелчин чүвелер көстүр болза, албан системаңарга "Old Turkic" кодтуг шрифтилерни компьютерже киирип алыңар! Өске дылдыг Википедияаларда Орхон шрифтилер орнунга арын иштинче анаа *.svg файлдар киирип каан боор-дур. Ол *.svg файлдарда Орхон үжүктү чурук ышкаш чуруп каан болур-дур. Тыва Викиге албаны-биле "Old Turkic" кодтуг шрифтилерни киирер болза эки! Бо Викиге Орхон-Енисей чуруктуг *.svg файлдарны чүгле чогуур таварылгада ажыглаар болза эки! --Көпек (обсуждение) 17:58, 16 Тос айның 2015 (KRAT)
VisualEditor News #5—2015
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Did you know?
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs, added new features, and made some small design changes. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages like Japanese and Arabic, making it easier to edit on mobile devices, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.
Recent improvements
эдерEducational features: The first time ever you use the visual editor, it now draws your attention to the Ссылка and ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽ tools. When you click on the tools, it explains why you should use them. (T108620) Alongside this, the welcome message for new users has been simplified to make editing more welcoming. (T112354) More in-software educational features are planned.
Links: It is now easier to understand when you are adding text to a link and when you are typing plain text next to it. (T74108, T91285) The editor now fully supports ISBN, PMID or RFC numbers. (T109498, T110347, T63558) These "magic links" use a custom link editing tool.
Uploads: Registered editors can now upload images and other media to Commons while editing. Click the new tab in the "Вставить Изображения и медиафайлы" tool. You will be guided through the process without having to leave your edit. At the end, the image will be inserted. This tool is limited to one file at a time, owned by the user, and licensed under Commons's standard license. For more complex situations, the tool links to more advanced upload tools. You can also drag the image into the editor. This will be available in the wikitext editor later.
Mobile: Previously, the visual editor was available on the mobile Wikipedia site only on tablets. Now, editors can use it on all devices regardless of size if they wish. (T85630) Edit conflicts were previously broken on the mobile website. Edit conflicts can now be resolved in both wikitext and visual editors. (T111894) Sometimes templates and similar items could not be deleted on the mobile website. Selecting them caused the on-screen keyboard to hide with some browsers. Now there is a new "Удалить" button, so that these things can be removed if the keyboard hides. (T62110) You can also edit table cells in mobile now.
Rich editing tools: You can now add and edit sheet music in the visual editor. (T112925) There are separate tabs for advanced options, such as MIDI and Ogg audio files. (T114227, T113354) When editing formulæ and other blocks, errors are shown as you edit. It is also possible to edit some types of graphs; adding new ones, and support for new types, will be coming.
On the English Wikipedia, the visual editor is now automatically available to anyone who creates an account. The preference switch was moved to the normal location, under Special:Preferences.
Future changes
эдерYou will soon be able to switch from the wikitext to the visual editor after you start editing. (T49779) Previously, you could only switch from the visual editor to the wikitext editor. Bi-directional switching will make possible a single edit tab. (T102398) This project will combine the "Эдер" and "Вики-сөзүглелди эдер" tabs into a single "Эдер" tab, similar to the system already used on the mobile website. The "Эдер" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time.
Let's work together
эдер- Share your ideas and ask questions at VisualEditor/Feedback. This feedback page uses Flow for discussions.
- Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at What to test if you can help, and report it on Phabricator (Korean - Japanese) or on Wikipedia (Korean - Japanese).
- Local admins can set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki. If you need help, then please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
- The weekly task triage meetings are open to volunteers. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration, though. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the main VisualEditor project with the bug.
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
—Elitre (WMF), 01:17, 31 Он айның 2015 (KRAT)
VisualEditor News #6—2015
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Since the last newsletter, the visual editor team has fixed many bugs and expanded the mathematics formula tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages such as Japanese and Arabic, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.
Recent improvements
эдерYou can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. The LaTeX mathematics formula editor has been significantly expanded. (T118616) You can see the formula as you change the LaTeX code. You can click buttons to insert the correct LaTeX code for many symbols.
Future changes
эдерThe single edit tab project will combine the "Эдер" and "Вики-сөзүглелди эдер" tabs into a single "Эдер" tab, like the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398, T58337) Initially, the "Эдер" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as a cookie for logged-out users and as an account preference for logged-in editors. Logged-in editors will be able to set a default editor in the Эдилге tab of Special:Preferences in the drop-down menu about "Режим редактирования:".
The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the following Wikipedias in early 2016: Amharic, Buginese, Min Dong, Cree, Manx, Hakka, Armenian, Georgian, Pontic, Serbo-Croatian, Tigrinya, Mingrelian, Zhuang, and Min Nan. (T116523) Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. The developers would like to know how well it works. Please tell them what kind of computer, web browser, and keyboard you are using.
In 2016, the feedback pages for the visual editor on many Wikipedias will be redirected to mediawiki.org. (T92661)
Testing opportunities
эдер- Please try the new system for the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You can edit while logged out to see how it works for logged-out editors, or you can create a separate account to be able to set your account's preferences. Please share your thoughts about the single edit tab system at the feedback topic on mediawiki.org or sign up for formal user research (type "single edit tab" in the question about other areas you're interested in). The new system has not been finalized, and your feedback can affect the outcome. The team particularly wants your thoughts about the options in Special:Preferences. The current choices in Special:Preferences are:
- Помнить мой последний редактор,
- Всегда открывать визуальный редактор, если это возможно,
- Всегда открывать редактор исходного текста, and
- Показывать мне оба варианта редактора. (This is the current state for people already using the visual editor. None of these options will be visible if you have disabled the visual editor in your preferences at that wiki.)
- Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at What to test if you can help, and report it on Phabricator (Korean - Japanese) or on Wikipedia (Korean - Japanese).
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Четтирдим!
Elitre (WMF), 07:06, 25 Он ийи айның 2015 (KRAT)
VisualEditor News #6—2015
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Since the last newsletter, the visual editor team has fixed many bugs and expanded the mathematics formula tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages such as Japanese and Arabic, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.
Recent improvements
эдерYou can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. The LaTeX mathematics formula editor has been significantly expanded. (T118616) You can see the formula as you change the LaTeX code. You can click buttons to insert the correct LaTeX code for many symbols.
Future changes
эдерThe single edit tab project will combine the "Эдер" and "Вики-сөзүглелди эдер" tabs into a single "Эдер" tab, like the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398, T58337) Initially, the "Эдер" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as a cookie for logged-out users and as an account preference for logged-in editors. Logged-in editors will be able to set a default editor in the Эдилге tab of Special:Preferences in the drop-down menu about "Режим редактирования:".
The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the following Wikipedias in early 2016: Amharic, Buginese, Min Dong, Cree, Manx, Hakka, Armenian, Georgian, Pontic, Serbo-Croatian, Tigrinya, Mingrelian, Zhuang, and Min Nan. (T116523) Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. The developers would like to know how well it works. Please tell them what kind of computer, web browser, and keyboard you are using.
In 2016, the feedback pages for the visual editor on many Wikipedias will be redirected to mediawiki.org. (T92661)
Testing opportunities
эдер- Please try the new system for the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You can edit while logged out to see how it works for logged-out editors, or you can create a separate account to be able to set your account's preferences. Please share your thoughts about the single edit tab system at the feedback topic on mediawiki.org or sign up for formal user research (type "single edit tab" in the question about other areas you're interested in). The new system has not been finalized, and your feedback can affect the outcome. The team particularly wants your thoughts about the options in Special:Preferences. The current choices in Special:Preferences are:
- Помнить мой последний редактор,
- Всегда открывать визуальный редактор, если это возможно,
- Всегда открывать редактор исходного текста, and
- Показывать мне оба варианта редактора. (This is the current state for people already using the visual editor. None of these options will be visible if you have disabled the visual editor in your preferences at that wiki.)
- Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at What to test if you can help, and report it on Phabricator (Korean - Japanese) or on Wikipedia (Korean - Japanese).
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Четтирдим!
Elitre (WMF), 08:06, 25 Он ийи айның 2015 (KRAT)
Уважаемый коллега, "Большое спасибо всем и каждому, кто вносит свой вклад в развитие разделов Википедии на языках России от имени всех участников движения Викимедиа. Ваши усилия способствуют сохранению нематериального культурного наследия планеты, а также достижению идеалов Фонда Викимедиа и уставных целей российской национальной организации НП «Викимедиа РУ».
Также смотрите ru:Проект:Разделы Википедии на региональных языках России/Новости/Архив и m:Расскажите нам о вашей Википедии.
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Dear colleague, "Great thanks of all Wikimedia movement participants goes to each and everyone who contributes into developing Wikipedias in the languages of Russia. Your efforts support preservation of Intangible cultural heritage of humanity, as well as achieving the Vision of Wikimedia Foundation and Charter objectives of the Russian national Wikimedia chapter.
See also ru:Проект:Разделы Википедии на региональных языках России/Новости/Архив and m:Tell us about your Wikipedia. Original delivery list for this newsletter is generated manually from publicly available data accumulated in and accessible through respective table, but anyone is welcome to join in. To receive this monthly bulletin into your personal talk page or that of one of the community pages in your language edition, please use the following syntax to add delivery target address in the subsections below. To unsubscribe, just remove it from the list. |
-- Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 22:09, 12 Бир айның 2016 (KRAT)
Объединение усилий по популяризации Википедий на региональных языках
эдер- Создал wmru:Заглавная страница/tt и m:Wikipedias in the languages of Russia/tt. Приглашаю подумать о создании версий на вашем родном языке. Текст на Мете (второй) можете изменять и дополнять на основе Вашего богатого опыта. С уважением, --Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 23:05, 18 Бир айның 2016 (KRAT)
- Создал wmru:Шаблон:Проекты Викимедиа на языках России/tyv и {{Россия күрүне дылдары}}, правьте по необходимости. С уважением,--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 00:38, 27 Бир айның 2016 (KRAT)
- Хотите, чтобы тувинский получал столько же внимания, как и английский? На заглавной странице ВМРУ это уже возможно! К моему родному татарскому уже присоединился и саха! С Вас лишь доперевести нехватающие элементы. Успехов! --Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 21:35, 30 Бир айның 2016 (KRAT)
- Создал wmru:Шаблон:Проекты Викимедиа на языках России/tyv и {{Россия күрүне дылдары}}, правьте по необходимости. С уважением,--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 00:38, 27 Бир айның 2016 (KRAT)
Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России», выпуск #3 (февр.'16) / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter, issue #3 (Feb.'16)
эдерУважаемый коллега,
Большое спасибо всем и каждому, кто вносит свой вклад в развитие Разделов Википедии на языках России. В этом выпуске:
Подписаться/Отписаться. Готовы поделиться своими новостями или опытом? добавляйте ссылку в следующий выпуск! |
Dear colleague, Great thanks go to each and everyone contributing into developing Wikipedias in the languages of Russia. In this issue:
Subscribe/Unsubscribe. Ready to share own news or valuable experience? Add a link into the next month issue! |
--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 18:18, 12 Февраль 2016 (KRAT)
VisualEditor News #1—2016
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Did you know?
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Indic, and Han scripts, and improving the single edit tab interface.
Recent changes
эдерYou can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. This function is available to nearly all editors at most wikis except the Wiktionaries and Wikisources.
Many local feedback pages for the visual editor have been redirected to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
You can now re-arrange columns and rows in tables, as well as copying a row, column or any other selection of cells and pasting it in a new location.
The formula editor has two options: you can choose "Quick edit" to see and change only the LaTeX code, or "Edit" to use the full tool. The full tool offers immediate preview and an extensive list of symbols.
Future changes
эдерThe single edit tab project will combine the "Эдер" and "Вики-сөзүглелди эдер" tabs into a single "Эдер" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Эдер" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the Эдилге tab of Special:Preferences:
- Помнить мой последний редактор,
- Всегда открывать визуальный редактор, если это возможно,
- Всегда открывать редактор исходного текста, and
- Показывать мне оба варианта редактора. (This is the state for people using the visual editor now.)
The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.
The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. This will affect the following languages, amongst others: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic.
Let's work together
эдер- Please try out the newest version of the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You may need to restore the default preferences (at the bottom of test2wiki:Special:Preferences) to see the initial prompt for options. Were you able to find a preference setting that will work for your own editing? Did you see the large preferences dialog box when you started editing an article there?
- Can you read and type in Korean, Arabic, Japanese, Indic, or Han scripts? Does typing in these languages feels natural in the visual editor? Language engineer David Chan needs to know. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org.
- Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Join the Tech Talk about "Automated citations in Wikipedia: Citoid and the technology behind it" with Sebastian Karcher on 29 February 2016.
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Четтирдим!
Elitre (WMF), 02:21, 27 Февраль 2016 (KRAT)
Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России», выпуск #4 (март'16) / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter, issue #4 (Mar.'16)
эдерУважаемый коллега,
Большое спасибо всем и каждому, кто вносит свой вклад в развитие Разделов Википедии на языках России. В этом выпуске:
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Dear colleague, Great thanks go to each and everyone contributing into developing Wikipedias in the languages of Russia. In this issue:
Subscribe/Unsubscribe. Ready to share own news or valuable experience? Add a link into the next month issue! |
--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 15:21, 15 Үш айның 2016 (KRAT)
Түрк дылдыг мусульман чоннарга / Для представителей тюркоязычных мусульманских народов
эдерБээр чүве бижиирде бижээн чүвелериңер эки хынап туруңар. Частырыглар каракка дыка көскү-дүр. Турк сөстер тыва дылга таарышпас диин, ону база бодап билип чоруңар.
Эрте бурунгу үениң "Түрк" деп аттыг аймаан, амгы үеде Анатолияда чурттап чоруур "Түрк" деп чон-биле чаңгыс черге холуп биживеңер. Тыва Википедияга Анатолияның чонун орус орфография ёзугаар: "Турк", "Турктар" деп сөстер ажыглап тургаш бижиир силер, чурт адын болза "Турция" дээр. Чүгле, VI-VIII дугаар векте Каңгай биле Ордоска чурттап чораан тускай аймак адын «Түрк» кылдыр бижиир силер. Моон соңгаар ындыг будулгаазын чүвелер кылбаңар.
Оон ыңай, «Уйгур» биле «Уйгурлар» деп сөстер-биле, эрте бурунгу үеде Каңгай дагларын эжелей чуртаан аймактың адын, чүгле ынчаар бижиир силер. Амгы үеде Кыдаттың Синьцзян можузунда чурттап чоруур мусульман чонну «Синьцзян уйгурлары» деп сөстер-биле айтып бижиир силер.
Хамык чоннарның төөгүзүн номчуп көөр болза, бир хөктүг чүве бар. Бир чон, шуут өске чоннуң адын анаа-ла бодунга ап алыр-дыр. Ол ындыг чүвениң ужурун улуска база таптыг тайылбырлап бээр херек.
Төөгү билбес кижи «Түрк чоннар» деп сөстүң шын утказын угаап шыдаар бе? Мен бодаарымга шыдавас боор. Ындыг кижи «Түрк чоннар» деп сөстү номчааш бажы-биле өскээр чоруй баар. «Бис түрк дылдыг мусульман чоннар-биле шынап-ла төрелдешкек эвес бис бе?» дээнзиг, шын эвес бодал мелегей кижиниң бажынга кирип болур. Шынында, «Түрк чоннар» дээрге тыва дылче очулдурган «Тюркские народы» деп орус термин-дир. «Түрк чоннар» дээрге дыл эртеминиң бир онзагай термини-дир. Ол сөс-биле эртемденнер чүгле дыл-домаа дөмейлешкек чоннарны бөлүглеп аңгылап алыр турган. Ханы-биле-даа, менталитеди-биле-даа түрк чугаалыг мусульман чоннар тываларга төрел эвес. Ол өске улус-тур!
Ынчангаш ол сөс орнунга албан «Түрк дылдыг чоннар» деп термин ажыглаар херек.
«Түрктер» деп аңгылалче амгы үеде чурттап чоруур, азы бо чооку үеге чедир чуртап чораан түрк дылдыг чоннарның улузун киирип каан аан. Ынчап болбас! «Түрк» деп аңгылалга чүгле шаандагы түрктер дугайында бижээн арыннарны бөлүглей чыыр ужурлуг бис.
руский перевод
эдерУбедительно прошу участников тюркоязычных Википедий. Пожалуйста, внимательно проверяйте орфографию своих записей. Правописание принятое например, в турецком языке, не всегда соответствует нормам тувинского языка.
То, что турки называют себя словом "түрк" это нам известно, мы в курсе! В тувиноязычной части Википедии принято русское орфографическое написание этого народа. Соответственно, пишите только так: "Турк, Турктар, Турция". А под словами «Түрктер», «Түрк», «Уйгур», «Уйгурлар» понимаются именно средневековые племена обитавшие в Ордосе и в Хангайском нагорье.
Современных уйгуров, которые населяют Синцзян-Уйгурский автономный округ Китая, в тувиноязычной части Википедии вы должны именовать не иначе, как «Синьцзян уйгурлары». По-русски: «Синьцзянские уйгуры».
Всё это сделано специально. Есть люди, которые плохо разбираются в этнографии и истории. История народов такова, что один народ может присвоить себе имя другого народа, при этом эти народы не всегда бывают родственны по-крови. Многие люди этого не понимают. И наша задача разъяснить людям природу данного явления. И чтобы, не путать людей, надобно чётко разграничить применение некоторых «терминов».
Избегайте давать Статьям и Категориям давать имя «Түрк чоннар». Потому-что это двусмысленный термин. С тувинского он может переводится, и как «тюркские народы», и как «тюркоязычные народы». Для группирования современных тюркоязычных народов используйте термин: «Түрк дылдыг чоннар» – Тюркоязычные народы. Русский термин «тюркские народы» на самом деле не предполагает родства по крови, по мировоззрению или культуре. Это чисто лингвистический термин, который предполагает исключительно языковое родство. А теперь подумайте, неискушённый человек сможет понять все эти тонкости. Думаю, нет!
Заметил, что в Категорию «Түрктер» запихнули представителей современных тюркоязычных народов. Категория «Түрктер» предназначена только для группировки статей касающихся средневекового племени «Түрк».
- Уважаемый коллега Көпек, спасибо за разъяснение по данному конкретному случаю. Ваши проблемы видимо начались из-за моей ошибочной привязки Аңгылал:Түрктер к элементу Викиданных d:Q7062608 (ru:Категория:Тюркские народы, tt:Төркем:Төрки халыклар и т.д.) – свою соответствующую правку откатил, добавил туда вновь созданную , к которой отнёс и прочие категории. Было бы здорово, если бы Вы смогли помочь правильно состыковать все имеющиеся в тувинском разделе статьи и категории с соответствующими элементами. Спасибо.--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 23:47, 1 Дөрт айның 2016 (KRAT)
- Уважаемый коллега Көпек, причину путаницы выяснил:
- интервики ссылка d:Q83328 (в соответствие с которой с Түрк=ru:Тюрки) и
- то, что Түрк и Түрк дылдар входят в категорию Аңгылал:Түрктер.--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 00:31, 2 Дөрт айның 2016 (KRAT)
Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России», выпуск #5 (апр'16) / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter, issue #5 (Apr.'16)
эдерУважаемый коллега,
Большое спасибо всем и каждому, кто вносит свой вклад в развитие Разделов Википедии на языках России. В этом выпуске:
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Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России», выпуск #6 (май'16) / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter, issue #6 (May.'16)
эдерУважаемый коллега,
Большое спасибо всем и каждому, кто вносит свой вклад в развитие Разделов Википедии на языках России. В этом выпуске:
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Dear colleague, Great thanks go to each and everyone contributing into developing Wikipedias in the languages of Russia. In this issue:
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--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 01:41, 16 Беш айның 2016 (KRAT)
Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России», выпуск #7 (июнь'16) / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter, issue #7 (June'16)
эдерУважаемый коллега,
Большое спасибо всем и каждому, кто вносит свой вклад в развитие Разделов Википедии на языках России. В этом выпуске:
В добавок к тому, что уже опубликовал в рамках постерного доклада на Финноугорском викисеминаре 2016, хочу поделиться следующей находкой и пригласить и Вас пользоваться ей – для себя я её назвал «Интервикификацией»: Статья, посвящённая каждому дню года обычно имеет раздел «Праздники и памятные даты» и мы, несомненно, гордимся тем, что знаем о событиях, важных для наших соседей по планете и в мире Википедии. В татароязычном разделе Википедии я уже некоторое время как собираю подобную информацию из соседних разделов, снабжаю её наименованием на соответствующем языке (которую подкрепляю ссылкой на статью об этом мероприятии в соответствующем разделе) и ссылками на внешний авторитетный источник (особенно при отсутствии таковых в статье в соответствующем языковом разделе или даже отсутствии самой статьи – например лишь упоминание события на pl:9 czerwca#Święta или es:9 de junio#Celebraciones). При этом я соблюдаю рекомендации Павла Львовича Каганера, что я сам должен прочитать материал в соответствующей внешней ссылке, если таковая является обязательной (в отличие от однозначных случаев типа Autonomy Day, День автономии, Ålands självstyrelsedag, Itsehallintopäivä) На соответствующих страницах ТатВики конечно же пока не отражаются все праздники и памятные даты по всем дням всех стран и народов, но то, что я собрал и подтвердил за последние два года можете смело забирать и обогащать свои разделы. Так даже самый маленький раздел может ощутить свою подлинную интернациональность, а его читатели – его значимость и ценность...
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Dear colleague, Great thanks go to each and everyone contributing into developing Wikipedias in the languages of Russia. In this issue:
I'd like to share one more tool left unmentioned in my poster presentation @ Finno-Ugric Wikiseminar 2016 & invite you to start using it – I've called it «Interwikification»: An article dedicated to a specific day of the year usually has «Holidays and memorable days» section and we all are certainly proud to know about events special to our neighbors on the planet who contribute into Wikipedia. It's been a while since I've started visiting neighboring Wikipedias to gathering such info for Tatar Wikipedia, providing it with original language title (linking to a specific article in respective language), as well as links to external respectable sources (especially if such links/article are missing in respective Wikipedia – say the event is just mentioned at pl:9 czerwca#Święta or es:9 de junio#Celebraciones). At the same time I follow Paul Kaganer's (User:Kaganer) recommendation that I must read the material in the external link myself, since Wikipedia itself is not always reliable (except probably such cases as Autonomy Day, День автономии, Ålands självstyrelsedag, Itsehallintopäivä) Respective ttwiki pages certainly do not reflect all special dates of all countries, peoples and social groups, but feel free to use what I've gathered over the last two years to enrich your Wikipedias. Thus even very small language Wikipedia becomes truly international, helping its readers to feel the importance of their language... Subscribe/Unsubscribe. Ready to share own news or valuable experience? Add a link into the next month issue! |
--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 17:56, 14 Алды айның 2016 (KRAT)
Editing News #2—2016
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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Arabic and Indic scripts, and adapting the visual editor to the needs of the Wikivoyages and Wikisources.
Recent changes
эдерThe visual editor is now available to all users at most Wikivoyages. It was also enabled for all contributors at the French Wikinews.
The single edit tab feature combines the "Эдер" and "Вики-сөзүглелди эдер" tabs into a single "Эдер" tab. It has been deployed to several Wikipedias, including Hungarian, Polish, English and Japanese Wikipedias, as well as to all Wikivoyages. At these wikis, you can change your settings for this feature in the "Эдилге" tab of Special:Preferences. The team is now reviewing the feedback and considering ways to improve the design before rolling it out to more people.
Future changes
эдерThe "Арынны шыгжаар" button will say "Арын чаяар". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.
The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including: Arabic, Hindi, Thai, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Urdu, Persian, Bengali, Assamese, Aramaic and others.
The team is working with the volunteer developers who power Wikisource to provide the visual editor there, for opt-in testing right now and eventually for all users. (T138966)
The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. It will look like the visual editor, and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices around September 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.
Let's work together
эдер- Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor? Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.
- Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Watch the Tech Talk by Sebastian Karcher for more information.
If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Четтирдим!
m:User:Elitre (WMF), 00:20, 4 Чеди айның 2016 (KRAT)
WikiTurkic
эдерПриглашаю на обсуждение m:User talk:Рөстәм Нурыев/WikiTurkic --Рөстәм Нурыев (обсуждение) 21:28, 9 Сес айның 2016 (KRAT)
Тыва Википедияның бижикчилеринге онза чарлал
эдерТыва Викини улам чаагайжыдар деп бодаар болзувусса ырлар сөстерин болган кыска тоолдарны моон соңгаар Википедияже киирбес болза эки-дир!
Шупту чүве турар черлиг боор. Ырлар сөстерин болгаш тоолдарны киир бижиир деп бодаар болзуңарза Викитекаже барыңар. Улустуң аас-чогаалы болгаш уран чогаал чыындызы Викитекага турар ужурлуг. Википедия улуска билиг бээр ужурлуг, Википедияга чүгле «аналитиктиг информация» турар ужурлуг. Чижээлээрге, кайы бир ыр дугайында арын чаяар деп бодаар болзуңарза, ол ырыңарның сөстерин биживес силер, ол ыр “дугайында” бижик бижиир силер. Википедияга ырның боду херекчок, Википедияга ырны сайгарар херек.
Чавыдак (ыры), Коңгурей (ыры), Өвүр хадып... (ыры), Шартаа-Хүрең аъттыг Саргалаң, Анан-Даваа, Кускун биле үгү деп арынарны балааш, ол арыннарда бижээн чүвени Викитекаже киирер болза эки-дир. Оон ыңай, тоолдарны азы кайы-бир чогаалды дүжүрүп бижип тургаш, бижиктиң структуразын албан номда ышкаш кылыр силер. Чижээ: Шартаа-Хүрең аъттыг Саргалаң деп тоолдуң сөзүглелин хөктүг бижээн-дир. Ол, «Тыва тоолдар» деп номда ол тоолдуң эге сөзүглелин шак ынчалдыр бижээн бе? Домактар албан абзацтарга чарлыр ужурлуг, эвеспе?! Абзацтар аразынга хос чер турбас бе?! --Көпек (обсуждение) 19:48, 16 Сес айның 2016 (KRAT)
- Ол чүүлдерни Википедиядан ап каарының бертинде, Викитекаже киирер херек. 1 чедилик (неделя) хуусаа биске чедер. --Agilight (обсуждение) 00:33, 17 Сес айның 2016 (KRAT)
For global administrators
эдерI will write in Russian. Sorry, my english is not perfect.
К вниманию глобальных администраторов Википедии. Требуется заблокировать аккаунт пользователя Sendam2, либо применить к данному пользователю иное средство воздействия.
Основание к блокировке: данный участник преднамеренно создаёт страницы нарушающие принятое правило создания страниц для людей у которых тувинское ФИО. Данному участнику я заранее дал ознакомится с правилом написания имён для людей тувинской национальности. Но он специально проигнорировал мою просьбу, и насколько я понял, он не намерен и далее придерживаться принятых в тувиноязычной части Википедии Правил.
Согласно правилам недопустимо для тувинских имён писать Отчества с русскоязычными окончаниями -ович, -евич, овна, -евна. А посему, прошу и впредь блокировать по первому требованию тех людей, которые специально регистрируются в Википедии, для того чтобы производить хаос.
Для обсуждения моей просьбы я предлагаю всем высказаться на странице Википедия:Ниитилел хаалгазы. --Көпек (обсуждение) 22:08, 16 Сес айның 2016 (KRAT)
P.S.
Али, я твоё сообщение перенёс в Портал сообщества, там обсудим. Давайте хоть на этом уровне не будем создавать бардак. Пусть страница «Медээлер» будет только для информационных сообщений. --Көпек (обсуждение) 10:48, 17 Сес айның 2016 (KRAT)
Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России», выпуск #8 (сентябрь'16) / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter, issue #8 (September '16)
эдерУважаемый коллега,
Большое спасибо всем и каждому, кто вносит свой вклад в развитие Разделов Википедии на языках России.
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Dear colleague, Great thanks go to each and everyone contributing into developing Wikipedias in the languages of Russia.
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--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 17:16, 3 Тос айның 2016 (KRAT)
Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России» / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter - #9 (окт./Oct'16)
эдерУважаемый коллега,
Большое спасибо всем и каждому, кто вносит свой вклад в развитие Разделов Википедии на языках России.
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Dear colleague, Great thanks go to each and everyone contributing into developing Wikipedias in the languages of Russia.
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--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 18:40, 3 Он айның 2016 (KRAT)
Editing News #3—2016
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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has mainly worked on a new wikitext editor. They have also released some small features and the new map editing tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the list of work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, releasing the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving language support.
Recent changes
эдер- You can now set text as small or big.[1]
- Invisible templates have been shown as a puzzle icon. Now, the name of the invisible template is displayed next to the puzzle icon.[2] A similar feature will display the first part of hidden HTML comments.[3]
- Categories are displayed at the bottom of each page. If you click on the categories, the dialog for editing categories will open.[4]
- At many wikis, you can now add maps to pages. Go to the Insert menu and choose the "Maps" item. The Discovery department is adding more features to this area, like geoshapes. You can read more at mediawiki.org.[5]
- The "Save" button now says "Save page" when you create a page, and "Save changes" when you change an existing page.[6] In the future, the "Арынны шыгжаар" button will say "Арын чаяар". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.
- Image galleries now use a visual mode for editing. You can see thumbnails of the images, add new files, remove unwanted images, rearrange the images by dragging and dropping, and add captions for each image. Use the "Options" tab to set the gallery's display mode, image sizes, and add a title for the gallery.[7]
Future changes
эдерThe visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining 10 "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next month. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including Thai, Burmese and Aramaic.
The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. The 2017 wikitext editor will look like the visual editor and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices in October 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.
Let's work together
эдер- Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor? Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.
- If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Четтирдим!
00:50, 16 Он айның 2016 (KRAT)
Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России» / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter - #10 (ноя./Nov.'16)
эдер--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 17:20, 25 Он айның 2016 (KRAT)
Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России» / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter - #11 (янв./Jan.'17)
эдерБюллетень «Википедии на языках России» / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter - #12 (фев./Feb.'17)
эдерНа заметку
эдерКоллеги, делюсь находками на случай если найдёте полезным использовать аналогичные в своём проекте (ссылки на страницы в татарВП):
- tt:Википедия:Википедиячеләр атласы (атлас википедистов)
- tt:Татнет сәхифәләре рейтингы (рейтинг сайтов Татнета по кол-ву уникальных посетителей/просмотров в день)
С уважением, --Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 13:08, 21 Февраль 2017 (+07)
Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России» / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter - #13 (апрель/April'17)
эдерEditing News #1—2017
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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and adding the new visual diff tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving the visual diff tool.
Recent changes
эдер- A new wikitext editing mode is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. The 2017 wikitext editor has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. Go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures to enable the ⧼Visualeditor-preference-newwikitexteditor-label⧽.
- A new visual diff tool is available in VisualEditor's visual mode. You can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. More features will be added to this later. In the future, this tool may be integrated into other MediaWiki components. [8]
- The team have added multi-column support for lists of footnotes. The
<references />
block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. [9] - You can now use your web browser's function to switch typing direction in the new wikitext mode. This is particularly helpful for RTL language users like Urdu or Hebrew who have to write JavaScript or CSS. You can use Command+Shift+X or Control+Shift+X to trigger this. [10]
- The way to switch between the visual editing mode and the wikitext editing mode is now consistent. There is a drop-down menu that shows the two options. This is now the same in desktop and mobile web editing, and inside things that embed editing, such as Flow. [11]
- The Аңгылалдар item has been moved to the top of the Арынның параметрлери menu (from clicking on the "hamburger" icon) for quicker access. [12] There is also now a "Templates used on this page" feature there. [13]
- You can now create
<chem>
tags (sometimes used as<ce>
) for chemical formulas inside the visual editor. [14] - Tables can be set as collapsed or un-collapsed. [15]
- The Специальный символ menu now includes characters for Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics and angle quotation marks (‹› and ⟨⟩) . The team thanks the volunteer developer, Tpt. [16]
- A bug caused some section edit conflicts to blank the rest of the page. This has been fixed. The team are sorry for the disruption. [17]
- There is a new keyboard shortcut for citations:
Control
+Shift
+K
on a PC, orCommand
+Shift
+K
on a Mac. It is based on the keyboard shortcut for making links, which isControl
+K
orCommand
+K
respectively. [18]
Future changes
эдер- The team is working on a syntax highlighting tool. It will highlight matching pairs of
<ref>
tags and other types of wikitext syntax. You will be able to turn it on and off. It will first become available in VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode, maybe late in 2017. [19] - The kind of button used to Хынап көөр, Өскертилгени көргүзер, and finish an edit will change in all WMF-supported wikitext editors. The new buttons will use OOjs UI. The buttons will be larger, brighter, and easier to read. The labels will remain the same. You can test the new button by editing a page and adding
&ooui=1
to the end of the URL, like this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?action=edit&ooui=1 The old appearance will no longer be possible, even with local CSS changes. [20] - The outdated 2006 wikitext editor will be removed later this year. It is used by approximately 0.03% of active editors. See a list of editing tools on mediawiki.org if you are uncertain which one you use. [21]
- If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Четтирдим!
01:06, 13 Беш айның 2017 (+07)
Бюллетень «Википедии на языках России» / «Wikipedias in the languages of Russia» newsletter – #14
эдерУважаемый коллега,
Большое спасибо всем и каждому, кто вносит свой вклад в развитие Разделов Википедии на языках России.
Подписаться/Отписаться. Готовы поделиться своими новостями или опытом? добавляйте ссылку в следующий выпуск! |
Dear colleague, Great thanks go to each and everyone contributing into developing Wikipedias in the languages of Russia.
Subscribe/Unsubscribe. Ready to share own news or valuable experience? Add a link into the next month issue! |
--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 20:55, 15 Алды айның 2017 (KRAT)
Баннерная кампания про Российскую Викимедиа конференцию 2017
эдерУважаемые коллеги, пожалуйста выскажите своё мнение по поводу баннерной кампании CentralNotice для объявления о Российской Викимедиа конференции 2017 (для читателей разных вики из России + русская вики глобально). Спасибо.--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 23:02, 27 Тос айның 2017 (KRAT)
Баннерная кампания про Приволжский вики-семинар 2017
эдер- EN: Dear colleagues, please comment on CentralNotice banner proposal for Volga WikiSeminar 2017 announcement (all active WPs in languages of Russia, except Azerbaidjani, Kazakh, Finnish and Ukrainian; globally, except Ukraine). Thank you & sorry if this announcement is not available in your preferred language.
- RU: Уважаемые коллеги, пожалуйста выскажите своё мнение по поводу баннерной кампании CentralNotice для объявления о Приволжском вики-семинаре 2017 (все активные ВП на языках России, кроме азербайджанской, казахской, украинской и финской; глобально, кроме Украины). Спасибо и приношу извинения, если данное объявление недоступно на предпочитаемом вами языке.--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 19:08, 9 Он айның 2017 (KRAT)
Editing News #1—2018
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Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode, which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and improving the visual diff tool. Their work board is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor, and improving the visual diff tool.
Recent changes
эдер- The 2017 wikitext editor is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. It has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. The team have been comparing the performance of different editing environments. They have studied how long it takes to open the page and start typing. The study uses data for more than one million edits during December and January. Some changes have been made to improve the speed of the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual editor. Recently, the 2017 wikitext editor opened fastest for most edits, and the 2010 WikiEditor was fastest for some edits. More information will be posted at mw:Contributors/Projects/Editing performance.
- The visual diff tool was developed for the visual editor. It is now available to all users of the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. When you review your changes, you can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. You can also enable the new Beta Feature for "Visual diffs". The Beta Feature lets you use the visual diff tool to view other people's edits on page histories and Special:RecentChanges. [22]
- Wikitext syntax highlighting is available as a Beta Feature for both the 2017 wikitext editor and the 2010 wikitext editor. [23]
- The citoid service automatically translates URLs, DOIs, ISBNs, and PubMed id numbers into wikitext citation templates. It is very popular and useful to editors, although it can be a bit tricky to set up. Your wiki can have this service. Please read the instructions. You can ask the team to help you enable citoid at your wiki.
Let's work together
эдер- The team will talk about editing tools at an upcoming Wikimedia Foundation metrics and activities meeting.
- Wikibooks, Wikiversity, and other communities may have the visual editor made available by default to contributors. If your community wants this, then please contact Dan Garry.
- The
<references />
block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. [24] - If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly. We will notify you when the next issue is ready for translation. Четтирдим!
03:56, 3 Үш айның 2018 (KRAT)
WikiGap 2018 Russia
эдер- EN: Dear colleagues, please comment on CentralNotice banner proposal for WikiGap 2018 Russia article contest. (8 March - 8 April, all IPs from Russia, WPs only, 1 banner impression per week). Thank you.
- RU: Уважаемые коллеги, пожалуйста выскажите своё мнение по поводу баннерной кампании CentralNotice для объявления о российском викимарафоне WikiGap 2018 (8 марта - 8 апреля, все IP из России, только Википедии, 1 показ в неделю). Спасибо.--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 22:02, 6 Үш айның 2018 (KRAT)
Public Domain 2018 Russia
эдер- EN: Dear colleagues, please comment on CentralNotice banner proposal for Public Domain 2018 Russia uploads & article contest. (18 March - 30 June, all IPs from Russia, Wp/Ws/Commons, 1 banner impression per two weeks). Thank you.
- RU: Уважаемые коллеги, пожалуйста выскажите своё мнение по поводу баннерной кампании CentralNotice для объявления о российском викимарафоне Общественное достояние 2018 (18 марта - 30 июня, все IP из России, Википедии/Викитеки/Викисклад, 1 показ в две недели). Спасибо.--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 01:36, 9 Үш айның 2018 (KRAT)
2018 FIFA World Cup Cities Regions
эдерRU:
Уважаемые коллеги!
Викимедиа Россия (ВМРУ) выступает со-организатором открытого мультиплатформенного конкурса «Узнай Россию. Города и регионы ЧМ по футболу 2018» (14 марта-15 июля). Для уведомления о возможности участия пользующихся Википедией, Викигидом и Викискладом жителей и гостей России инициирована баннерная кампания CentralNotice.
- Проект баннера (RU)
- Срок: 20 мая - 3 июня 2018 г.
- Аудитория: незарегистрировавшиеся посетители
- Разделы: en-ru-tt и возможно в иных, на языке которых будет готова локальная посадочная страница (преимущественно из числа Википедий на языках народов России)
- Частота показов: низкая, по усмотрению CN-админов, желательно не более 3-4 всплываний в неделю (Limit traffic 3% like WMDE Spring 2018?).
Прошу высказать своё мнение, предложения по изменению баннера или настроек ниже, а лучше на страничке заявки на баннер на языке данного уведомления. Будем благодарны, если поможете нам создать или улучшить баннер и посадочную страницу проекта на Вашем языке.
От имени баннерной программы Викимедиа РУ, с уважением
EN:
Dear colleagues!
Wikimedia Russia (WMRU) is a co-organizer of Discover Russia. 2018 FIFA World Cup Cities & Regions Wiki-Marathon (March 14 - July 15). Targeted CentralNotice banner campaign is initiated to inform Wikipedia, Wikivoyage & Wikimedia Commons visitors from among residents & guests of the Russian Federation about this opportunity.
- Draft Banner (EN)
- Terms: 20 May - 4 June 2018
- Audience: Anonymous visitors
- Wikipedia editions: en-ru-tt and possibly others, who will have local language landing page (though we mainly concentrate on Wikipedias in the languages of Russia)
- Weight & impression: low, TBD by CN-admins, preferably no more than 3-4 impressions per week (Limit traffic 3% like WMDE Spring 2018?).
We invite you to express your opinion, voice your proposals about improving the banner or its settings, here or (better) at banner request page in the language of this notification. We will be grateful if you can help us to create or improve the banner and the project landing page in Your language.
On behalf of WMRU Banner Program, respectfully--Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 05:00, 21 Дөрт айның 2018 (KRAT)
Wikimedia CEE Spring 2018 Russia
эдерEN:
Please comment on CentralNotice banner proposal for ongoing annual Wikimedia CEE Spring 2018 article writing contest.
Proposed settings: Month long, only in Russia, WPs in en-kk-myv-ru-tt & possibly others (local landing page, mainly from m:Wikipedias in the languages of Russia), low impression TBD by CN admins.
On behalf of Wikimedia Russia Banners Program, respectfully --Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 15:25, 21 Дөрт айның 2018 (KRAT)
RU:Пожалуйста выскажитесь про баннерную кампанию CentralNotice для уведомления читателей о ежегодном викимарафоне «Вики-весна» (21 марта-31 мая).
Предложенные настройки: длинной в месяц, только в России, разделы ВП на en-kk-myv-ru-tt и возможно в иных (локальная посадочная страница, преимущественно из числа Википедий на языках народов России), низкая частота показов по усмотрению CN-админов.
От имени баннерной программы Викимедиа РУ, с уважением --Frhdkazan (обсуждение) 15:25, 21 Дөрт айның 2018 (KRAT)
Editing News #2—2018
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Did you know?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has wrapped up most of their work on the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual diff tool. The team has begun investigating the needs of editors who use mobile devices. Their work board is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are fixing bugs and improving mobile editing.
Recent changes
эдер- The Editing team has published an initial report about mobile editing.
- The Editing team has begun a design study of visual editing on the mobile website. New editors have trouble doing basic tasks on a smartphone, such as adding links to Wikipedia articles. You can read the report.
- The Reading team is working on a separate mobile-based contributions project.
- The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer supported. If you used that toolbar, then you will no longer see any toolbar. You may choose another editing tool in your editing preferences, local gadgets, or beta features.
- The Editing team described the history and status of VisualEditor in this recorded public presentation (starting at 29 minutes, 30 seconds).
- The Language team released a new version of Content Translation (CX2) last month, on International Translation Day. It integrates the visual editor to support templates, tables, and images. It also produces better wikitext when the translated article is published. [25]
Let's work together
эдер- The Editing team wants to improve visual editing on the mobile website. Please read their ideas and tell the team what you think would help editors who use the mobile site.
- The Community Wishlist Survey begins next week.
- If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly. We will notify you when the next issue is ready for translation. Четтирдим!
21:17, 2 Он бир айның 2018 (KRAT)
Public Domain 2019 Russia
эдерУважаемые коллеги, пожалуйста выскажите своё мнение по поводу баннерной кампании CentralNotice для объявления о российском викимарафоне Общественное достояние 2019 (18 февраля — 31 марта, все IP из России, Википедии/Викитеки/Викисклад, 1 показ в две недели). JukoFF (обсуждение) 22:12, 30 Бир айның 2019 (KRAT)
Editing News #1—July 2019
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Did you know?
Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.
Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.
Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:
Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?
If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.
Follow these instructions and share your experience:
Recent releases
эдерThe mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:
- Section editing
- The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
- The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
- Loading overlay
- The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.
Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.
New and active projects
эдерThis is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.
- Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲 Try Edit Cards.
- Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
- Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
- Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use. The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.
Looking ahead
эдер- Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to the team about how editing can be improved.
- Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.
Learning more
эдерThe VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.
01:32, 24 Чеди айның 2019 (KRAT)
Wikimedians_of_Turkic_Languages_User_Group
эдерДрузья. Информирую о начале процедуры создания юзер-группы Wikimedians_of_Turkic_Languages_User_Group. Создана страница на Мете и подана заявка в Аффилийшен Комитет. Заинтересованных волонтеров приглашают записаться в юзер-группу. --Рөстәм Нурыев (обсуждение) 14:12, 16 Он айның 2019 (+07)
Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages
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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.
Help
эдерWhat talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!
Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team wants your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.
Talk pages project
эдерThe Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.
The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.
Mobile visual editor
эдерThe Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.
- On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
- There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
- Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.
- In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
- One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
- New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
- Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
- Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.
Wikimania
эдерThe Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.
Looking ahead
эдер- Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
- Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
- Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The Editing team hopes to share results in November. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.
– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)
18:12, 29 Он айның 2019 (+07)
Выпускники и наставники России 2019
эдерУважаемые коллеги, пожалуйста выскажите своё мнение по поводу баннерной кампании CentralNotice для объявления о российском конкурсе статей Конкурсы/Выпускники и наставники России 2019 (1 - 15 декабря, все IP из России, Википедии, 1 показ в две недели). Спасибо. JukoFF (обсуждение) 20:27, 10 Он бир айның 2019 (+07)
WikiGap 2020 Russia
эдерУважаемые коллеги, пожалуйста выскажите своё мнение по поводу баннерной кампании CentralNotice для объявления о российском викимарафоне WikiGap 2020 (8 марта - 8 мая, все IP из России, только Википедии, 1 показ в неделю). Спасибо. JukoFF (обсуждение) 16:02, 27 Февраль 2020 (+07)
Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools
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The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.
The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.
- On 31 March 2020, the new харыылаар tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
- The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
- an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
- a rich-text visual editing option, and
- other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.
To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.
– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)
02:27, 9 Дөрт айның 2020 (+07)
Editing news 2020 #2
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This issue of the Editing newsletter includes information the Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily.
- Reply tool: This is available as a Beta Feature at the four partner wikis (Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian Wikipedias). The Beta Feature is called "Инструменты обсуждений". The Beta Feature will get new features soon. The new features include writing comments in a new visual editing mode and pinging other users by typing
@
. You can test the new features on the Beta Cluster now. Some other wikis will have a chance to try the Beta Feature in the coming months. - New requirements for user signatures: Soon, users will not be able to save invalid custom signatures in Special:Preferences. This will reduce signature spoofing, prevent page corruption, and make new talk page tools more reliable. Most editors will not be affected.
- New discussion tool: The Editing team is beginning work on a simpler process for starting new discussions. You can see the initial design on the project page.
- Research on the use of talk pages: The Editing team worked with the Wikimedia research team to study how talk pages help editors improve articles. We learned that new editors who use talk pages make more edits to the main namespace than new editors who don't use talk pages.
03:33, 18 Алды айның 2020 (+07)
Editing news 2020 #3
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Seven years ago this month, the Editing team offered the visual editor to most Wikipedia editors. Since then, editors have achieved many milestones:
- More than 50 million edits have been made using the visual editor on desktop.
- More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
- The visual editor is increasingly popular. The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has increased every year since its introduction.
- In 2019, 35% of the edits by newcomers (logged-in editors with ≤99 edits) used the visual editor. This percentage has increased every year.
- Almost 5 million edits on the mobile site have been made with the visual editor. Most of these edits have been made since the Editing team started improving the mobile visual editor in 2018.
- On 17 November 2019, the first edit from outer space was made in the mobile visual editor. 🚀 👩🚀
- Editors have made more than 7 million edits in the 2017 wikitext editor, including starting 600,000 new articles in it. The 2017 wikitext editor is VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode. You can enable it in your preferences.
19:55, 9 Чеди айның 2020 (+07)
Alumni and Mentors of Russia 2020
эдерУважаемые коллеги, пожалуйста выскажите своё мнение по поводу баннерной кампании CentralNotice для объявления о российском конкурсе статей Конкурсы/Выпускники и наставники России 2020 (20 августа - 10 ноября 2020, все IP из России, Википедии, 1 показ в две недели). Спасибо. JukoFF (обсуждение) 00:25, 11 Сес айның 2020 (+07)
Узнай Россию. Новгородские земли
эдерЗдравствуйте, коллеги. Уведомляю, что с 1 ноября по 15 декабря будет проходить конкурс-марафон, посвящённый Северо-западу России, организованный Викимедиа Россия совместно с юзер-группой Вики-краеведов Северо-запада России. Помимо традиционного проведения конкурса в различных языковых разделах Википедии, этот конкурс также будет проводиться в Викигиде. Ждём участников и желаем всем продуктивной и лёгкой работы! Красный (обсуждение) 00:14, 29 Он айның 2020 (+07)
WikiGap 2021 Russia
эдерУважаемые коллеги, пожалуйста выскажите своё мнение по поводу баннерной кампании CentralNotice для объявления о российском викимарафоне WikiGap 2021 (8 марта - 8 мая, все IP из России, только Википедии, 1 показ в неделю). Спасибо. --Dmitry Rozhkov (обсуждение) 07:33, 7 Үш айның 2021 (+07)
Wikimania 2021: Individual Program Submissions
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Wikimania 2021 will be hosted virtually for the first time in the event's 15-year history. Since there is no in-person host, the event is being organized by a diverse group of Wikimedia volunteers that form the Core Organizing Team (COT) for Wikimania 2021.
Event Program - Individuals or a group of individuals can submit their session proposals to be a part of the program. There will be translation support for sessions provided in a number of languages. See more information here.
Below are some links to guide you through;
Please note that the deadline for submission is 18th June 2021.
Announcements- To keep up to date with the developments around Wikimania, the COT sends out weekly updates. You can view them in the Announcement section here.
Office Hour - If you are left with questions, the COT will be hosting some office hours (in multiple languages), in multiple time-zones, to answer any programming questions that you might have. Details can be found here.
Best regards,
MediaWiki message delivery (обсуждение) 11:18, 16 Алды айның 2021 (+07)
On behalf of Wikimania 2021 Core Organizing Team
Editing news 2021 #2
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Earlier this year, the Editing team ran a large study of the Reply Tool. The main goal was to find out whether the Reply Tool helped newer editors communicate on wiki. The second goal was to see whether the comments that newer editors made using the tool needed to be reverted more frequently than comments newer editors made with the existing wikitext page editor.
The key results were:
- Newer editors who had automatic ("default on") access to the Reply tool were more likely to post a comment on a talk page.
- The comments that newer editors made with the Reply Tool were also less likely to be reverted than the comments that newer editors made with page editing.
These results give the Editing team confidence that the tool is helpful.
Looking ahead
The team is planning to make the Reply tool available to everyone as an opt-out preference in the coming months. This has already happened at the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedias.
The next step is to resolve a technical challenge. Then, they will deploy the Reply tool first to the Wikipedias that participated in the study. After that, they will deploy it, in stages, to the other Wikipedias and all WMF-hosted wikis.
You can turn on "Инструменты обсуждений" in Beta Features now. After you get the Reply tool, you can change your preferences at any time in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.
21:14, 24 Алды айның 2021 (+07)
Alumni and Mentors of Russia 2021
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Editing news 2022 #1
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The New topic tool helps editors create new ==Sections== on discussion pages. New editors are more successful with this new tool. You can read the report. Soon, the Editing team will offer this to all editors at the 20 Wikipedias that participated in the test. You will be able to turn it off at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.
Editing news 2023 #1
эдерПрочитайте это на другом языке • Подписной лист на этот многоязычный информационный бюллетень
Этот бюллетень включает два ключевых обновления о работе команды Редактирование:
- Команда редактирования завершит добавление новых возможностей в проект Страницы беседы и развернет его.
- Они начинают новый проект, Проверка редактирования.
Проект разговорных страниц
Команда редакторов почти закончила первый этап проекта Страницы беседы. Почти все новые функции уже доступны в Бета-версия функции для Инструменты обсуждений.
Он показывает информацию об активности обсуждения, например, дату последнего комментария. Вскоре появится новая кнопка "Тема немээр". Вы сможете отключить их в Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion. Пожалуйста, скажите им, что вы думаете.
Завершился A/B-тест для Инструменты обсуждений на мобильном сайте. Редакторы были более успешны с Инструменты обсуждений. Команда редакторов включает эти функции для всех редакторов на мобильном сайте.
Новый проект: Проверка редактирования
Команда редакторов начинает проект помощи новым редакторам Википедии. Он поможет людям выявить некоторые проблемы до того, как они нажмут "Арынны үндүрер". Первый инструмент будет поощрять людей добавлять ссылки, когда они добавляют новый контент. Пожалуйста, смотрите на этой странице для получения дополнительной информации. Вы можете присоединяйтесь к конференц-звонку по 3 March 2023, чтобы узнать больше.